Brain Health: How Music and Lifelong Learning Can Prevent Cognitive Decline
In our latest Bionic Health podcast, Dr. Jared Pelo interviews neurologist-turned-entrepreneur Dr. Josh Turknett about the science of brain health, cognitive decline prevention, and how learning complex skills like music can help maintain brain function as we age.
From Neurologist to Music Education Innovator
Dr. Josh Turknett's journey is anything but conventional. After completing medical school and a four-year neurology residency at the University of Florida, he spent years in private practice treating neurological conditions. But over time, he began to recognize a significant gap between what he could offer patients in clinical practice and what he believed they truly needed.
"I came to realize that a lot of the issues I was seeing as a neurologist were related to lifestyle and preventable types of things," Dr. Turknett explains. Through his own experience with migraines, he discovered that dietary changes had a more profound impact on his condition than conventional treatments—a revelation that would eventually lead him to reconsider his entire approach to neurological health.
While still practicing neurology, Dr. Turknett pursued his passion for music, specifically the banjo. Drawing on his background in cognitive neuroscience, he began integrating principles of neuroplasticity into his musical practice. This eventually evolved into BrainJo, an innovative platform that teaches musical instruments through neuroscience-based approaches.
The "Stimulate and Support" Framework for Brain Health
When it comes to maintaining cognitive health, Dr. Turknett advocates a simple yet powerful framework: stimulate and support.
"There are two things to think about in terms of keeping a healthy brain throughout our life," he says. "We have stimulation on one side and support on the other side."
Stimulation: Fighting Autopilot Mode
Cognitive stimulation is essential for maintaining brain health, but Dr. Turknett points out that many of us, especially in established careers, operate largely on autopilot. "The more you can spend your day on autopilot, the less cognitive stimulation you've provided," he explains.
Real cognitive stimulation comes from activities that trigger plastic reorganization in the brain—essentially, learning new knowledge and skills. This is where complex activities like learning a musical instrument come in.
BrainJo currently offers instruction in multiple instruments:
- Two styles of banjo (claw hammer and fingerstyle)
- Piano
- Ukulele
- Fiddle
- With guitar coming soon
Support: Giving Your Brain What It Needs
Just as important as stimulation is providing your brain with the resources it needs to maintain existing neural connections and build new ones. Dr. Turknett identifies several key pillars of brain support:
- Physical activity - Particularly activities that combine cardiovascular fitness, strength training, and cognitive demands (like tennis or pickleball)
- Sleep and rest - Critical for neural recovery and consolidation
- Nutrition - Including key nutrients like B12, vitamin D, magnesium, zinc, and copper
- Stress management - Limiting chronic stress that can damage brain tissue
- Social connection - Perhaps the most underappreciated factor in brain health
On the often-overlooked importance of social interaction, Dr. Turknett notes: "Being around other people, conversing with other people, being in social situations is an enormous cognitive stimulus... one of the reasons that we see [cognitive] deterioration is because of the loss of that stimulus when people are isolated."
Assessing Cognitive Risk and Monitoring Brain Health
Many people, especially those with family histories of dementia or genetic risk factors like APOE4, wonder how to assess their risk for cognitive decline. Dr. Turknett emphasizes that while there's no single test that can definitively predict risk, there are several approaches to monitoring brain health:
- Regular cognitive assessments, whether through formal testing or self-monitoring
- Basic blood work to identify conditions like metabolic syndrome or nutritional deficiencies
- Lifestyle evaluation to identify areas for improvement
He recommends foodforthebrain.org for those interested in comprehensive cognitive evaluation with a nutritional focus.
Rather than viewing cognitive health as predetermined, Dr. Turknett stresses that "we are actively influencing our risk all the time." This empowering perspective frames brain health as something we can continuously improve through our daily choices.
Anyone Can Play Music: The Science of Learning at Any Age
Dr. Turknett's new book, "Anyone Can Play Music: How to Realize Your Musical Potential with the Laws of BrainJo," challenges the common belief that learning complex skills like music becomes impossible as we age.
"The reason we can learn anything at any age is because we have this ability to change the brain at any age," he explains. "Learning complex skills relies on neurological mechanisms that we all share."
The book outlines principles for leveraging these natural mechanisms, often requiring readers to unlearn ineffective approaches taught in traditional education. It's as much about how to learn anything as it is about music specifically.
A Prescription for Brain Health
For someone in their mid-40s concerned about future cognitive health, Dr. Turknett recommends:
- Evaluate your current cognitive stimulation - Is your work challenging your brain, or are you on autopilot?
- Incorporate complex real-world skills - Music, dance, or sports that demand coordination and strategy
- Ensure physical fitness - Combining low-level movement, resistance training, and occasional high-intensity exercise
- Monitor nutritional status - Particularly for B12, vitamin D, and other brain-essential nutrients
- Prioritize social connection - Ideally through activities that simultaneously provide cognitive stimulation
The key is finding activities you enjoy that provide both cognitive challenges and social connection—like joining a community of musicians or picking up a sport like pickleball that combines physical activity, strategy, and social interaction.
Beyond the Clinic: Making a Broader Impact
Dr. Turknett's transition from clinical practice to entrepreneurship reflects his desire to have a greater impact on brain health than the constraints of a traditional medical practice would allow.
"To actually fulfill the role that I initially signed up for... I could do a much better job doing what I'm doing now than I could in the clinic," he reflects. Through his online platform, books, and educational content, he's able to reach and help far more people than would be possible seeing patients one at a time.
This sentiment resonates with Dr. Pelo, who made a similar transition from emergency medicine to focusing on preventative health through technology. Both physicians recognize that while there will always be a need for excellent clinicians, there's also tremendous value in creating scalable approaches to health that can benefit millions.
Time Stamps:
00:01 - Introduction and welcome
00:13 - Josh's background and journey from neurologist to entrepreneur
02:59 - Josh's personal experience with migraines and lifestyle changes
03:59 - Discovering neuroplasticity and challenging fixed mindsets about adult learning
06:51 - Transitioning from clinical neurology to broader impact
10:09 - The challenge of leaving clinical practice and finding new ways to help people
11:40 - How BrainJo evolved to address cognitive health
14:33 - Musical instruments you can learn at BrainJo (banjo, piano, ukulele, fiddle)
15:26 - Assessing cognitive decline risk and preventative strategies
17:39 - The importance of monitoring cognitive function
18:37 - Key nutrients for brain health (B12, vitamin D, magnesium, zinc, copper)
20:33 - Why genetics isn't deterministic for cognitive decline
21:29 - The value of cognitive testing and brain games
23:27 - Practical advice for a 45-year-old to prevent cognitive decline
24:03 - The "stimulate and support" framework for brain health
29:19 - What types of physical activity are best for brain health
33:08 - The surprising importance of social connection for brain health
36:46 - Josh's new book "Anyone Can Play Music" and the science of learning
40:31 - Conclusion and where to find more information
Learn More
To discover more about Dr. Turknett's approaches to brain health through music, visit brainjo.academy. His new book "Anyone Can Play Music" is available wherever books are sold.
This blog post is based on a Bionic Health podcast interview. At Bionic Health, we believe in affordable, precision medicine for optimal health, delivered by doctors and AI working together.
